That depends on the person and I don't know you that well.
There's a range? People who are curious about the Legends and want the answers. People who've been shown another life and want to reclaim it however they can. People who think that being here helps people, because others can't take their place. People who want to be here because want to protect people they care about.
... or people who are here because they believe they can't be a person anywhere else.
Oya... you're pretty in tune with people around here, it sounds like.
Someone told me that they were coming back because all their friends were returning and they didn't want to be left behind. At the same time, they're afraid that coming back here means they'll watch all those friends become strangers. That's something that could need distracting from thinking now that they're here, right?
Nah nah. I'm just saying that even if you're uncomfortable or not really feeling optimistic or better to be here than ... back there, your reasons for coming back are still more likely than not pretty valid. Basically, it's okay to complain about choosing to come back here, I think.
[ To his credit: He doesn't flinch. He does stiffen in surprise at how easily he switches to it. And even if he doesn't quite feel things from him, he doesn't think it's a lie. It's why the drink goes down and his brows furrow together. ]
... And you think that's something the ship can give you? Why?
Well, supposedly we're all immortal so you might have trouble with the first one.
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[ He quiets as he looks at the drink and for a brief moment - even to Sam who knows him little he's perhaps not the same kid. Quiet. Still. Like he's sucking in the world around him.
He bites the inside of his lip. ]
I'm not sure that's an answer you'll get here. Or, maybe it will be but that's - maybe not the reason you should be here?
... Not sure how to describe caring about people as more than that, honestly?
[ a beat. ]
I guess it's like if we assume those that are "Ghosts" are like us and also "Legends" or on the way to become Legends or whatever... They've also been forgotten. No one on Disorder cared about them and the only thing people are interested in is getting information from them.
Which, yeah, I get but - they were still people. They are still people - just like us. It'd suck to only be cared about because I might be useful or whatever so I... try to talk to them and visit? And stuff. I don't ask about any of that and -
[ shrugs. ] I don't know what I'm trying to say. Just, that's how I "care" in that case. I know it probably sounds ridiculous.
In a world where too many memories strips us of our humanity— our ability to care for others—how will you overcome making sure they are all not forgotten?
[ The way Sam asks the question is with actual interest rather than any condescending tone or attempt to 'show' why his way of thinking is right or wrong. It's pure interest, intrigue and genuine curiosity on what Phoenix and his point of view has to offer for such a dilemma. ]
So if they're real then I'm the reincarnated son of a witch and an android. I'm their literal wish come true. I shouldn't even exist or be real, but here I am.
[ a beat okay so that's barely an explanation. ]
Did you know I'm an amnesiac? Here and there. It's - part of the reincarnation package. I only remembered a name there. My twin's name - I couldn't remember anything else. But eventually I was able to remember the moment we died and that let me bring him back from just a memory.
"Family is forever. We could never really leave each other even if we tried."
[ he's not sure that even gets to half the explanation but- ]
[ there a lot of potential things here, but Sam isn't quite sure what line of thinking Phoenix is going down. Still, he is much not interested in hearing more rather than less. ]
So are you suggesting that memories can't take away our humanity? Or that you can hold onto your memories and retain your humanity here? Or...?
I'm saying I refuse to let that happen. I won't forget who I am. I will always be me. Whoever I decide that is - all of it. That everything about who I am and where I come from counteracts that and I'll find the power to make sure it stays that way.
Which I know sounds like wishful thinking, but I came from wishful thinking. I'm going to believe in it. For all of us.
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There's a range? People who are curious about the Legends and want the answers. People who've been shown another life and want to reclaim it however they can. People who think that being here helps people, because others can't take their place. People who want to be here because want to protect people they care about.
... or people who are here because they believe they can't be a person anywhere else.
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Someone told me that they were coming back because all their friends were returning and they didn't want to be left behind. At the same time, they're afraid that coming back here means they'll watch all those friends become strangers. That's something that could need distracting from thinking now that they're here, right?
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[ mildly humored. but he considers a moment, pulling the hot cocoa to him as he asks: ]
So you're doing it to distract them and not for yourself?
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Nah nah. I'm just saying that even if you're uncomfortable or not really feeling optimistic or better to be here than ... back there, your reasons for coming back are still more likely than not pretty valid. Basically, it's okay to complain about choosing to come back here, I think.
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It also depends on if you're trying to avert the question.
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Not so! I'm just trying to gauge which angle I should best tell you the answer from.
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You don't have to tell me it at an angle. You can just say it in whatever is feel is true.
[ he shrugs a little moving to take a drink but first: ] I'm not going to flinch or whatever.
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I came back to find a reason to live or a way to die.
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... And you think that's something the ship can give you? Why?
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Mild.
[ He quiets as he looks at the drink and for a brief moment - even to Sam who knows him little he's perhaps not the same kid. Quiet. Still. Like he's sucking in the world around him.
He bites the inside of his lip. ]
I'm not sure that's an answer you'll get here. Or, maybe it will be but that's - maybe not the reason you should be here?
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Do you know what the most obvious way to become a Legend is?
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[ immediately: ] I don't care about becoming a Legend I care about the people behind them.
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[ a beat. ]
I guess it's like if we assume those that are "Ghosts" are like us and also "Legends" or on the way to become Legends or whatever... They've also been forgotten. No one on Disorder cared about them and the only thing people are interested in is getting information from them.
Which, yeah, I get but - they were still people. They are still people - just like us. It'd suck to only be cared about because I might be useful or whatever so I... try to talk to them and visit? And stuff. I don't ask about any of that and -
[ shrugs. ] I don't know what I'm trying to say. Just, that's how I "care" in that case. I know it probably sounds ridiculous.
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Not at all. I just wonder...
[ he takes a sip of his hot chocolate. ]
In a world where too many memories strips us of our humanity— our ability to care for others—how will you overcome making sure they are all not forgotten?
[ The way Sam asks the question is with actual interest rather than any condescending tone or attempt to 'show' why his way of thinking is right or wrong. It's pure interest, intrigue and genuine curiosity on what Phoenix and his point of view has to offer for such a dilemma. ]
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Literally not an option.
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[ go on. ]
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So if they're real then I'm the reincarnated son of a witch and an android. I'm their literal wish come true. I shouldn't even exist or be real, but here I am.
[ a beat okay so that's barely an explanation. ]
Did you know I'm an amnesiac? Here and there. It's - part of the reincarnation package. I only remembered a name there. My twin's name - I couldn't remember anything else. But eventually I was able to remember the moment we died and that let me bring him back from just a memory.
"Family is forever. We could never really leave each other even if we tried."
[ he's not sure that even gets to half the explanation but- ]
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So are you suggesting that memories can't take away our humanity? Or that you can hold onto your memories and retain your humanity here? Or...?
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I'm saying I refuse to let that happen. I won't forget who I am. I will always be me. Whoever I decide that is - all of it. That everything about who I am and where I come from counteracts that and I'll find the power to make sure it stays that way.
Which I know sounds like wishful thinking, but I came from wishful thinking. I'm going to believe in it. For all of us.
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